Wednesday, January 11, 2012

i love you more thanWhat in your life has caused you to doubt that humans love more than they hate?

I was reading The Scarlet Letter and became curious about this...

The passage that I read was,

"It is to the credit of the human nature, that, except where its selfishness is brought into play, it loves more readily than it hates."

Is there any situation in life that would make you doubt this quote?
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What about War, Murder, Rape? Some people are just damn bad
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I have never believed it. Humans unless they stumble upon a more interesting emotion tend towards disinterest more often than love or hate combined.
No.. I don't doubt it at all. That's statement with as much power behind it as saying "The sky is blue".

If humans hated more than they loved this world would be far more corrupt than it is. Big words don't necessarily mean big meaning. It's poetic enough, sure; but there's nothing fascinating behind it. I'm not talking bad about the book either, I think it's excellent.. I just have a hard time appreciating something when down to it's true definition it's taught me nothing.
everything starting with my sadistical ex girlfriend. they lead to believe they really love you then blam there out with another guy! i wish it was like in the 1800's when was severe punishment for that kind of behaviour. well i least i learned a good lesson don't trust anyone! :op
Yes; thati love you more than would be war.
Well, we can easily invalidate this quote using logic. If I can show you any other human characteristic that, when brought into play, causes humans not to love more readily than they hate, then the quote is invalid. It makes a singular exception for selfishness, which may not be enough.

Probably, the quote would be more difficult to invalidate if we (charitably) throw in every human vice we can think of along with selfishness, and THEN try to think of a way to doubt it:

"It is to the credit of the human nature that, except where its many vices are brought into play, it loves more readily than it hates." (modified by me to indicate a more modern awareness)

This is almost a tautology or truism by itself: what we're saying is that, if we throw out all our vices, we're all snuggly. WELL OF COURSE! That's pretty self-evident: the very notion of "our vices" is to capture the things that make us act in a blameworthy manner. Without them, we would have nothing but our essentially good traits.

Of course, there is (or was) a debate, grounded in religious belief at the time, as to whether the human spirit is inherently good or inherently evil. Puritans believed it was inherently evil, and we had to make a conscious effort to try and fight back that evil. So to get rid of our vices, for a Puritan, would be like getting rid of our very essence.

On the other hai love you more thannd, many popular modern views, both theistic and atheistic, grant humanity an inherently good nature, with a few vices thrown in to make life challenging. If you follow that school of thought, then our vices could potentially be removed, in whole or in part, if we take the proper measures. Then we would have no basis for hate.

In the end, I think I have to disagree with the way the quote is postured: it is trying to make it sound like the fact that humans have both virtues and vices is a credit to us, when in fact, I think most would agree that the very fact we have to acknowledge our vices implies something blameworthy about us, rather than something praiseworthy.
I suppose it's still love but many are willing to AV儿劣* each other over, and do readily, for the love of money. But I think that's where the selfishness part of the quote denies this.

The quote is basically saying humans love more than they hate and all bad deeds are caused by selfishness. So perhaps you could make a case that the only exception is mental illness. The actions of the mentally ill can't always be judged by the standards that govern the rest of us. While crimes committed by the insane can be considered unsavory, they themselves take no moral blame. But would someone free from morality be fully human?

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